Ascension's dead, man...
I'm Awakened already, just passing by through Temenos.

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

Unfortunatly, the Moros Guardians of the Veil have them all locked up tight.

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

Orphan/Technocrat/20 other characters for Mage the Ascension can join?

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Every cynic has a spirit of harmed child.

This IS dead.

Someone call an Euthanatos.

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.: Sole Survivor :.

note i ment ^^"

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Come visit my gallery !

cool ,i'd love to join will send not

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Come visit my gallery !

Hi!! May I join the club? I´m a Euthanatos XD.

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Enjoy the Silence...

Hey I love mage
and all the other WoD games out there, I storytell most of my groups WoD games. I'm actually doing some NWoD lately but still have OWoD games running. Our Ascension game has had some pretty spontaneous encounters like a spiritual Tsunami that got all the characters stuck on an uncharted Bermuda island now the character have to find there way off the island before the curses and gifts destroy them, and before they run out of time, as a vampire is holding an PC's loved one to get back an old grudge. Well it's so kool to find other gamers! Chookas

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The kiss in the mouth of the beholder

Which in terms of creativity means most people won't have to, cause they want it already done by someone else. That's the Awakening way.
What do you loose, if you step out of the Atlantean circle? Rote skills, and community support.

Ascension gave too much freedom, and they couldn't even patch a lame Paradigm together. Most of them, that is. Just like the cause of Malkavians, which weren't lunatics, like they were. Children with teddy bears, stupid pseudo-religious freaks... Lame. =='
Well, as for Traditions, look into it. Try the Order of Hermes. It had it's Houses, but as a Tradition it was as strict and organized, as any of the Orders from Awakening. Similiar cases? Akashic Brotherhood, Euthanatos... There were some exceptions, but... Who says there aren't any in Awakening? What would you say about Legacies?
And the Technocracy has it's dividing lines, but they're blurry too. Take the Syndicate, for example, or Progenitors. Htey have branches, but every one IS, what he shouldn't be - different.

From my pointo of view, Awakening has a good rule system. Which Ascension lacks. What are Rotes, or Rituals in Ascension? Awakening puts magic into forms forged by Atlantis, because it has dominated over the whole world, and even the Fall didn't end that domination. Yes, if the Union would win, it would look similiar...
And - in Awakening Ascension isn't a myth, and the Cosmology is working...

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

...which, in terms of creativity, means that the charatcers are limited and have to accept a shared view of reality.

Ascension is about finding one's own way. Even when a character shares a part of his life with others, they try to do so without compromising their beliefs. Even "Traditions", "Conventions" and so on are just there to group together people with similar outlooks, not those with an absolutely identical ones (although Conventions try to).



From my point of view, "Awakening" is a Technocratic device to stamp out the individualism allowed in "Ascension".

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Raj jest dziś tylko wyblakłym malowidłem.
Życie to smutny anioł o poczerniałych skrzydłach.
Ale tron nocy... na zawsze pozostaje nasz.
- "Prey", hymn Ciemnych

Awakening is about a world that has one True Way... At least that's what you see...

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

Sorry, I just don't find the "Atlantis" idea interesting nor innovative. Ascension at least tried to incorporate various magical ideas from around the world...

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Raj jest dziś tylko wyblakłym malowidłem.
Życie to smutny anioł o poczerniałych skrzydłach.
Ale tron nocy... na zawsze pozostaje nasz.
- "Prey", hymn Ciemnych

I'm not excited. I just... Well, i'd like you to read it, play, and then make an opinnion.

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

No need to get excited, man.

I have my reasons not to like nWoD. You have your reasons to like it. So be it.

OK?

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Raj jest dziś tylko wyblakłym malowidłem.
Życie to smutny anioł o poczerniałych skrzydłach.
Ale tron nocy... na zawsze pozostaje nasz.
- "Prey", hymn Ciemnych

Bah... That's you, and who else? Too little... Awakening will eat you.

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

Not everyone forgot about Ascension. There are still some hard-assed, hard-headed fans out there. Me, for example.

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Raj jest dziś tylko wyblakłym malowidłem.
Życie to smutny anioł o poczerniałych skrzydłach.
Ale tron nocy... na zawsze pozostaje nasz.
- "Prey", hymn Ciemnych

Hola hola. Hello hello.

Gracias por agregarme a tu lista de amigos. Espero te guste mi arte y cualquier comentario, adelante!

Thanks for adding me to your list of favs and friends. Hope you like my stuff and any comment is more than welcome!

Gracias. Thanks.


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RYNSON•2K7

It's not guilt. You didn't get it, so i'm explaining. Keep your pity for someone else, kid. If it's the GM we're speaking, a good one wouldn't even consider a Marauder in play, except for the NPC's, or PC's really close to madness...
And what do i see? Someone calls me static! <bwahahahahah> Better keep away from your toaster, child. It might bite you. An as far as technotoys go, they're good for gremlins, and not much else. I prefer technology spirits...

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

Only guilty explain himself so Don't deny. Because I don't belive you anymore...and you forget to add too difficult to understand and too play or you haven't meet right GM to ever dream about this so I could only feel pity for you. It was meantion that with some luck player can play maruder and fit good enough to be part of game. It's only of matter of Player and his GM. But what could I say you are too much Pattern to understand. So go back to play with your Techonotoys and leave reality to more dynamic mages...

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"You drank blood of a dead creature? (sound of a head ripped off and thrown into a trash bin) That's where you belong!!!" - Thrashing Dragons' opinion about Cainites.

I mean, i've seen those dragon and pseudo-garou ideas like a dozen times, or more. It's just a munchkin idea. A Marauder has tho have a Mad Paradigm. Without it, it's just a power-play puppet.
And by the way, Marauders are not suitable for Player Characters. Too powerful, too mad, too unstable, too unpredictable... Too dangerous.
Soooo... Keeping this in mind, that "electroman" is not "my character". It's an idea, which i had at that moment. I play a voodooistic TechnoShaman from Ghost Wheeel Society, Dreamspeaker fraction. It's enough for me. I don't have to be a paradox-immune mobile havoc.

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

So you call it lame? No more lame that your electroman. Listening someone like you make me think that all of you here are so 'evolved'

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"You drank blood of a dead creature? (sound of a head ripped off and thrown into a trash bin) That's where you belong!!!" - Thrashing Dragons' opinion about Cainites.

Read it, damn it. I said - find your own way. Not one of the lamest ones (Dragon master? Sounds stupid. Wannabe Garou? Old and lame.), but your own. A guy that travels through power lines, drinks literal voltage, and find himself a higher stage of being, for example. There are good examples in books, videos, and other games. Just look for it.

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

And you still talking the same. Point where I mentioned that he's Maruder.......probably you can't because I don't write it. Do you want to say that every mage with memory loss Is Maruder? Wake up...or I should say 'awaken' so maybe you understand that even my GM isn't that much...

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"You drank blood of a dead creature? (sound of a head ripped off and thrown into a trash bin) That's where you belong!!!" - Thrashing Dragons' opinion about Cainites.

More lame even. Sorry for being honest, but Marauders are a little more than that. Try something original.

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe

Hey, Awakening came, and everybody forgota about Ascension. If i were more of a wise-ass i would create an atlantean Awakening club, or sth.. But that would be too damn annoying...

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Mack Gaellen O'Gryffin
The Cat, Who Walks On His Own Ways
"All we see
is just a dream
within a dream..."
Edgar Allan Poe